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Howfarhavewecome?

Nati Batlle
over 2 years Conversation

Found this article in my grandmother's things, got me to start thinking... how much have expectations changed for women in the last 50 years? Do we still feel the instinct to please the men in our life and put their needs above our own? 

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  • Tiffany Pham
    Tiffany Pham Founder & CEO, Mogul
    over 2 years ago New York, NY, USA

    Wow, this is an incredible find! I think we've definitely come a long way. I remember taking home ec in school, even 10-15 years ago, and now those topics we learned about seem (fortunately) outdated. These days, I think there is more focus on being a strong and independent woman, and it's okay to put your needs first or at least equal to that of your partner, as opposed to putting your partner's needs first only. What do you think, NatiBatlle?

    Wow, this is an incredible find! I think we've definitely come a long way. I remember taking home ec in school, even 10-15 years ago, and now those topics we learned about seem (fortunately) outdated. These days, I think there is more focus on being a strong and independent woman, and it's okay to put your needs first or at least equal to that of your partner, as opposed to putting your partner's needs first only. What do you think, NatiBatlle?

    • Nati Batlle
      over 2 years ago

      I think that's definitely true! In the last 50 yrs women have grown from being ambivalent to confident in their decision to enter the workplace and expect their husbands to be equally as active in the household as they are. I think in this way equality is closer than ever but in some communities there is still the underlying idea that men should be the ones providing for the household and a wife's salary could just be "supplementary". This belief propagates the idea that an education for a woman is more of an accessory than anything else. So, while we have come a long way, I think "we didn't come this far only to come this far"! There is still a fight to be had and glass ceilings to be shattered.

      I think that's definitely true! In the last 50 yrs women have grown from being ambivalent to confident in their decision to enter the workplace and expect their husbands to be equally as active in the household as they are. I think in this way equality is closer than ever but in some communities there is still the underlying idea that men should be the ones providing for the household and a wife's salary could just be "supplementary". This belief propagates the idea that an education for a woman is more of an accessory than anything else. So, while we have come a long way, I think "we didn't come this far only to come this far"! There is still a fight to be had and glass ceilings to be shattered.

      • Kyra Kocis 76
        over 2 years ago

        I think this discussion is very relevant within the context of the modern feminist movement! While the image of the traditional "housewife" seems out dated, things like having dinner prepared, having a clean house and the children being taken care of are always important to the daily functions of a house. But I think you're so right to say that there is now the expectation that both partners contribute to these daily chores, as opposed to 50 years ago it being the sole expectation of the woman. Also, if a household today requires one parent to quit their job, I think we have seen that decision increasingly being made based on economic potential alone (ie if a woman makes more money, she will work while the dad "stays at home"). I know there is some stigma against the image of a stay-at-home dad, but I wonder if there are any depictions of this stereotype in the media and/or popculture?

        I think this discussion is very relevant within the context of the modern feminist movement! While the image of the traditional "housewife" seems out dated, things like having dinner prepared, having a clean house and the children being taken care of are always important to the daily functions of a house. But I think you're so right to say that there is now the expectation that both partners contribute to these daily chores, as opposed to 50 years ago it being the sole expectation of the woman. Also, if a household today requires one parent to quit their job, I think we have seen that decision increasingly being made based on economic potential alone (ie if a woman makes more money, she will work while the dad "stays at home"). I know there is some stigma against the image of a stay-at-home dad, but I wonder if there are any depictions of this stereotype in the media and/or popculture?

      • Tiffany Pham
        Tiffany Pham Founder & CEO, Mogul
        over 2 years ago New York, NY, USA

        Completely agree Nati!

        Completely agree Nati!


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